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New Rule
yet again
This is the official addition of the idea introduced by Xabi.
A new dimension will be introduced in the trading market.
- Now Captains have the power to offer points for players, or player + points for another player, or even player for points. All the negotiations must be made public in this thread, and when two captains reach an agreement I will have a final say on if the trade will be approved. This is because there is room for exploiting this rule, though I'm sure we've got a group of sporting competitors, and we won't have any issues in which I will have to step in. Players involved in an approved trade are obliged to accept.
- Another twist to the rule is that it will be implemented in picking up OOC agents. If there is more than one team interested in the services of a free agent, they will have to enter a bidding war, which will have a deadline set at 24 hours before the Yff deadline. The bidding war will mainly involve teams offering to give points up to the league, and the team which offers the most points will obtain the services of the free agent, who will be obliged to join the highest bidding team.
Now regarding MI's idea, it is indeed a big move for the league, therefoe I've decided to start a new suggestions/Development thread, in which I will have the final say on what to add to the league and when.
Please any discussions about new suggestions and new rules are to be discussed in the new thread, I will also post new rules to the other thread not this one to avoid confusion, and a list of all the competition rules will be provided there, which will mainly be the first post of this thread. Both the first post on this thread and that one will be updated regularly.
For now the primary discussion in the suggestions/development will be about how to implement a perfect Budget/salary cap/ etc. system.
yet again
This is the official addition of the idea introduced by Xabi.
A new dimension will be introduced in the trading market.
- Now Captains have the power to offer points for players, or player + points for another player, or even player for points. All the negotiations must be made public in this thread, and when two captains reach an agreement I will have a final say on if the trade will be approved. This is because there is room for exploiting this rule, though I'm sure we've got a group of sporting competitors, and we won't have any issues in which I will have to step in. Players involved in an approved trade are obliged to accept.
- Another twist to the rule is that it will be implemented in picking up OOC agents. If there is more than one team interested in the services of a free agent, they will have to enter a bidding war, which will have a deadline set at 24 hours before the Yff deadline. The bidding war will mainly involve teams offering to give points up to the league, and the team which offers the most points will obtain the services of the free agent, who will be obliged to join the highest bidding team.
Now regarding MI's idea, it is indeed a big move for the league, therefoe I've decided to start a new suggestions/Development thread, in which I will have the final say on what to add to the league and when.
Please any discussions about new suggestions and new rules are to be discussed in the new thread, I will also post new rules to the other thread not this one to avoid confusion, and a list of all the competition rules will be provided there, which will mainly be the first post of this thread. Both the first post on this thread and that one will be updated regularly.
For now the primary discussion in the suggestions/development will be about how to implement a perfect Budget/salary cap/ etc. system.
ptc and ice. Thats enough. Move on. Play nicely.
As for the controversial Ice case
Ice will officially step down as The Warriors captain effective immediately, and bp9000 will automatically be assigned as their new captain.
As for Ice being a free agent, since this is the first time we have this case here's the official ruling, which applies for all eternity, and will be added to the Arena Constitution.
Rule 2.5
- If a Captain resigns his post, his team have a first option on picking him from the OOC over the other teams. However, once the former captain is picked up by his team he will forever forfeit his right to becoming a captain or having any kind of captain privileges for the rest of the season.
I'm assuming in Ice's case he wants to join his old pals, but I'll wait for bp's confirmation.
In the meanwhile...
Congratualtion to bp9000 for joining the Elites of the competition !
Ice will officially step down as The Warriors captain effective immediately, and bp9000 will automatically be assigned as their new captain.
As for Ice being a free agent, since this is the first time we have this case here's the official ruling, which applies for all eternity, and will be added to the Arena Constitution.
Rule 2.5
- If a Captain resigns his post, his team have a first option on picking him from the OOC over the other teams. However, once the former captain is picked up by his team he will forever forfeit his right to becoming a captain or having any kind of captain privileges for the rest of the season.
I'm assuming in Ice's case he wants to join his old pals, but I'll wait for bp's confirmation.
In the meanwhile...
Congratualtion to bp9000 for joining the Elites of the competition !
QUOTE (ExecutorAzmin @ Nov 14 2010, 10:41 PM) 
I guess otherwise there's always the possibility that bp might immediately pass back the Captaincy to you, and if that happens it's like there was never a punishment in the first place...
wait a second. am i missing something or what? punishment? first off, i got 0 pts for missing the deadline, then i was FORCED to make a cut from my team cuz i got 0 pts, even when i just made a transfer right beforehand. that's like double punishment already. and then as a gesture of expressing my guilt, i voluntarily stepped down as captain. i didn't NEED to do it, but i volunteered for that move. right now, i can't go back and become my own team's captain?
QUOTE (playtimecharlie @ Nov 14 2010, 10:41 PM)
You quit, right? It seems sensible enough to receive some form of punishment and thus preclude you from captaining the same team in future. And why would your team mates want you as their captain again after you'd quit?
CD - is Ice disallowed captaincy of all teams this season , or just the team he quit?
CD - is Ice disallowed captaincy of all teams this season , or just the team he quit?
i did NOT quit. i voluntarily stepped down as a captain, cuz i felt guilty for missing the deadline. like i said earlier, i didn't have to do it, but i still did.
CD, i really don't get this. from the very beginning, i was really excited to become a captain and was happy to have been given the luxury of picking my own team. for the first few weeks, i was happy cuz our team was doing well and i was scoring good yff pts when i had thrown myself in as our respresentative. then all of a sudden, we had a change in game format. we're suppose to submit our lineup for the week and our pts would be rewarded accordingly. if u think about it, this really changes everything. it's like the first 4 weeks have a lesser weighting or something. but i thought all of the 38 weeks should be weighted equally. but that's ok, i understand that this is a new concept and things change as we go. after that came week 11 where all this mess started. i missed the deadline because of a genuine obligation which i obviously care more about. not only was i punished by taking 0 pts (even though there were members that contemplated the idea of rewarding me "some" pts, out of courtesy), but i was also forced to make a transfer, EVEN when i had just made one earlier (again, you personally came up with the appeal rule, but unfortunately since 1 of the 6 captain opposed to the idea, the whole thing failed). and finally, you're telling me that even if bp (whom i had selected) wanted me back as a captain, i wouldn't be allowed?
i think what i did was a sensible thing to do. i honestly did not forsee this happening from the very beginning. The Warriors is a team that i personally picked myself. heck, even the team name was my idea. It is my team and not someone else's. I DO NOT wanna join any other team other than my own team, but if I won't be granted captaincy of my own team, then what's the point? The Warriors wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for me, and now you're telling me I can't go back and captain my own team, all because I missed a deadline cuz I had a rough work day in real life? Wow. That's a bit harsh don't you think? There were sooo many chances for us to avoid this. If everyone had agreed to Expert or PTC's idea of rewarding "some" pts to me, we wouldn't be doing this right now. Or if that 1 captain had also agreed with the others of allowing me not to make a mandatory transfer, again, i wouldn't have dropped myself. And then finally, now i can't go back and manage the team that i created... i dunno, i'm speechless.
QUOTE (Ice66 @ Nov 14 2010, 11:52 PM)
i missed the deadline because of a genuine obligation which i obviously care more about. not only was i punished by taking 0 pts (even though there were members that contemplated the idea of rewarding me "some" pts, out of courtesy), but i was also forced to make a transfer, EVEN when i had just made one earlier (again, you personally came up with the appeal rule, but unfortunately since 1 of the 6 captain opposed to the idea, the whole thing failed). and finally, you're telling me that even if bp (whom i had selected) wanted me back as a captain, i wouldn't be allowed?
The rules were clear Ice, even if you had an obligation the rules were clear, if a captain objects because he signed up with those rules in place, he has every right to. The gesture was simply a gesture Ice, and some captains opposed the idea, and they have every right so I don't see the issue here. If everyone agreed to it I would've done it no question so I don't see what more I could've done here. I came up with the appeal, trying to help you out Ice, but again a captain objected which is his right.
Most importantly you making a transfer earlier was your own choice, what if you had finished last anyways? You would be in the same situation. Making that transfer was your responsibility, you can't expect us to bend the rules just because you made the transfer 2 days earlier???
QUOTE (Ice66 @ Nov 14 2010, 11:52 PM)
i think what i did was a sensible thing to do. i honestly did not forsee this happening from the very beginning. The Warriors is a team that i personally picked myself. heck, even the team name was my idea. It is my team and not someone else's. I DO NOT wanna join any other team other than my own team, but if I won't be granted captaincy of my own team, then what's the point? The Warriors wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for me, and now you're telling me I can't go back and captain my own team, all because I missed a deadline cuz I had a rough work day in real life?
Wow. That's a bit harsh don't you think?
Wow. That's a bit harsh don't you think?
No it isn't, I tried everything, that is also fair for everyone, I could do to help you Ice.
Again the rules were clear, it was your fault that you left the line-up so close to the deadline, you admitted it yourself Ice.
QUOTE (Ice66 @ Nov 14 2010, 11:52 PM)
There were sooo many chances for us to avoid this. If everyone had agreed to Expert or PTC's idea of rewarding "some" pts to me, we wouldn't be doing this right now. Or if that 1 captain had also agreed with the others of allowing me not to make a mandatory transfer, again, i wouldn't have dropped myself. And then finally, now i can't go back and manage the team that i created... i dunno, i'm speechless.
Again some captains rejected the idea, it was their right, I don't see the point of bringing it up again.
That one captain not agreeing is his right and how again am I responsible for that?
Getting to the point, all your reasons have nothing to do with the new rule, and you totally ignored the reasoning I gave you in my earlier response .
What if people decide to exploit the rule? Am I suposed to make an exception for you? What if the same case happens in the future and the person demands similar treatment, would it be fair to say no?
See all the potential problems that could arise Ice? I'm trying to avoid them by being fair to everyone and looking at the bigger picture. Your case is unfortunate and I sympathize with you Ice, but you can't expect me to bend the rules just because your case was unfortunate. You can't expect me to create a rule that only benefits you while it could create chaos long-term.
I've honestly tried to help you in every way I can that doesn't involve bending rules, which would be unfair to those who object. Its why I had the rules set in stone in the first post since day 1, to avoid conflicts when a problem like this arises.
QUOTE (Catalonian_Devil @ Nov 15 2010, 06:23 AM)
What if people decide to exploit the rule? Am I suposed to make an exception for you? What if the same case happens in the future and the person demands similar treatment, would it be fair to say no?
See all the potential problems that could arise Ice? I'm trying to avoid them by being fair to everyone and looking at the bigger picture. Your case is unfortunate and I sympathize with you Ice, but you can't expect me to bend the rules just because your case was unfortunate. You can't expect me to create a rule that only benefits you while it could create chaos long-term.
I've honestly tried to help you in every way I can that doesn't involve bending rules, which would be unfair to those who object. Its why I had the rules set in stone in the first post since day 1, to avoid conflicts when a problem like this arises.
See all the potential problems that could arise Ice? I'm trying to avoid them by being fair to everyone and looking at the bigger picture. Your case is unfortunate and I sympathize with you Ice, but you can't expect me to bend the rules just because your case was unfortunate. You can't expect me to create a rule that only benefits you while it could create chaos long-term.
I've honestly tried to help you in every way I can that doesn't involve bending rules, which would be unfair to those who object. Its why I had the rules set in stone in the first post since day 1, to avoid conflicts when a problem like this arises.
hey, i think you have completely misunderstood.
first off, i am not asking you to change any rule for me. did i make any complaints when i had to take the 0 pts? i understand what you're saying about the rules, so that's taken care of, no need to speak about it again. referring to the 1 captain who refused your appeal... yes, he has every right to say no, but it didn't need to be a uniamous vote right? ok, i won't go down that path and debate over it with you. i'm fine with that too.
no one is asking you for a special arragement for me. what i'm saying is, there are a lot of things that were NOT set in stone from the beginning. for example, the rule you've just added. if i decide to step down as a captain, i can no longer become a captain, no matter what. that - i believe weren't written clearly from week 1, was it? i don't understand why you need to be so defensive. i am NOT asking you to do anything more. i appreciate the fact that you had came up with the idea of this game and the effort behind running it. i am also very grateful for your attempt in coming up with the appeal, despite the result. you DO NOT need to make any exceptions for me, there is no need to, and i am not asking for that. all i am saying is, captains who step down can become a captain of his old or new team, if all of his team mates agree. that's all.
as for those who chooses to exploit this... first off, after my experience, i don't think any of the captains would drop themselves. everyone likes power and everyone likes exercising it. i don't think anyone would drop themselves as a captain, honestly. secondly, even if 1 odd person chooses to do so, they'd be out of their team and barred from making any decisions regarding his team's lineup for AT LEAST 1 week (or longer if you wish), which, imo, is enough. thirdly, even if his old team decides to get him back into his team, he'd need every team mate to agree to give him back his captaincy. it's not like he can force this from happening, right? lastly, hypothetically, it's still possible for the old captain to have a good relationship with the new captain where the new one simply acts as a figure-head of the old captain.
all in all, i guess what i'm saying is, if everyone in the team WANTS this person to be the captain, why shouldn't he? it has nothing to do with you doing more, or you bending any rules in my favor. i'm definitely NOT saying that.
QUOTE (Elyzrin @ Nov 15 2010, 06:40 AM)
I'm confused.... 
Hopefully I'm not offending you Ice66, but are you expecting to get back the captaincy after you resigned earlier? This statement seems to indicate that.
On CD's rulings, I don't think there's anything personal, he has to adapt and amend the rules as new circumstances emerge. I'm sorry I feel a bit responsible for this somehow.
Warriors, my apologies for this week's scores, not the start I wanted
QUOTE
I DO NOT wanna join any other team other than my own team, but if I won't be granted captaincy of my own team, then what's the point?
Hopefully I'm not offending you Ice66, but are you expecting to get back the captaincy after you resigned earlier? This statement seems to indicate that.
On CD's rulings, I don't think there's anything personal, he has to adapt and amend the rules as new circumstances emerge. I'm sorry I feel a bit responsible for this somehow.
Warriors, my apologies for this week's scores, not the start I wanted
elyzrin - i've spoken to bp privately and he has indicated that he would agree to have me back as the Warrior's captain. which was why i said that. so yes, i am expecting that.
i understand exactly what CD is doing. i also know that he has to adapt and amend the rules accordingly, so there's no need to clarify that. there's no need to feel responsible.
oh and about ur score... it's ok. i had an EXTREMELY bad score too this week. hope we both bounce back.
QUOTE (Elyzrin @ Nov 15 2010, 06:40 AM)
I'm confused....
Hopefully I'm not offending you Ice66, but are you expecting to get back the captaincy after you resigned earlier? This statement seems to indicate that.
On CD's rulings, I don't think there's anything personal, he has to adapt and amend the rules as new circumstances emerge. I'm sorry I feel a bit responsible for this somehow.
Warriors, my apologies for this week's scores, not the start I wanted
QUOTE
I DO NOT wanna join any other team other than my own team, but if I won't be granted captaincy of my own team, then what's the point?
Hopefully I'm not offending you Ice66, but are you expecting to get back the captaincy after you resigned earlier? This statement seems to indicate that.
On CD's rulings, I don't think there's anything personal, he has to adapt and amend the rules as new circumstances emerge. I'm sorry I feel a bit responsible for this somehow.
Warriors, my apologies for this week's scores, not the start I wanted
Actually, I don't think Ice has officially resigned yet - and in light of the twist in the rule change and the fact that he obviously wants to be Warriors team captain, I think he should put in his own twist by just retain his captaincy and dropping one of his crew members rather than himself. I, for one, would think this is fair even if it were me he were to drop.
Elyzrin, you certainly shouldn't feel guilty about anything - you didn't do anything 'cept get chosen from the OOC list!!
QUOTE (Ice66 @ Nov 15 2010, 12:46 AM)
QUOTE (Catalonian_Devil @ Nov 15 2010, 06:23 AM)
What if people decide to exploit the rule? Am I suposed to make an exception for you? What if the same case happens in the future and the person demands similar treatment, would it be fair to say no?
See all the potential problems that could arise Ice? I'm trying to avoid them by being fair to everyone and looking at the bigger picture. Your case is unfortunate and I sympathize with you Ice, but you can't expect me to bend the rules just because your case was unfortunate. You can't expect me to create a rule that only benefits you while it could create chaos long-term.
I've honestly tried to help you in every way I can that doesn't involve bending rules, which would be unfair to those who object. Its why I had the rules set in stone in the first post since day 1, to avoid conflicts when a problem like this arises.
See all the potential problems that could arise Ice? I'm trying to avoid them by being fair to everyone and looking at the bigger picture. Your case is unfortunate and I sympathize with you Ice, but you can't expect me to bend the rules just because your case was unfortunate. You can't expect me to create a rule that only benefits you while it could create chaos long-term.
I've honestly tried to help you in every way I can that doesn't involve bending rules, which would be unfair to those who object. Its why I had the rules set in stone in the first post since day 1, to avoid conflicts when a problem like this arises.
hey, i think you have completely misunderstood.
first off, i am not asking you to change any rule for me. did i make any complaints when i had to take the 0 pts? i understand what you're saying about the rules, so that's taken care of, no need to speak about it again. referring to the 1 captain who refused your appeal... yes, he has every right to say no, but it didn't need to be a uniamous vote right? ok, i won't go down that path and debate over it with you. i'm fine with that too.
no one is asking you for a special arragement for me. what i'm saying is, there are a lot of things that were NOT set in stone from the beginning. for example, the rule you've just added. if i decide to step down as a captain, i can no longer become a captain, no matter what. that - i believe weren't written clearly from week 1, was it? i don't understand why you need to be so defensive. i am NOT asking you to do anything more. i appreciate the fact that you had came up with the idea of this game and the effort behind running it. i am also very grateful for your attempt in coming up with the appeal, despite the result. you DO NOT need to make any exceptions for me, there is no need to, and i am not asking for that. all i am saying is, captains who step down can become a captain of his old or new team, if all of his team mates agree. that's all.
as for those who chooses to exploit this... first off, after my experience, i don't think any of the captains would drop themselves. everyone likes power and everyone likes exercising it. i don't think anyone would drop themselves as a captain, honestly. secondly, even if 1 odd person chooses to do so, they'd be out of their team and barred from making any decisions regarding his team's lineup for AT LEAST 1 week (or longer if you wish), which, imo, is enough. thirdly, even if his old team decides to get him back into his team, he'd need every team mate to agree to give him back his captaincy. it's not like he can force this from happening, right? lastly, hypothetically, it's still possible for the old captain to have a good relationship with the new captain where the new one simply acts as a figure-head of the old captain.
all in all, i guess what i'm saying is, if everyone in the team WANTS this person to be the captain, why shouldn't he? it has nothing to do with you doing more, or you bending any rules in my favor. i'm definitely NOT saying that.
The rule was not set in stone from the beginning because I did not foresee anyone stepping down as captain. In fact, the normal path without this rule would've been to drop you as a free agent and then every captain should have the right to pick you up. I amended the rule to include the special case of which a captain resigns, to give his team a shot at getting him back first, but it has to come at a cost Ice. I understand all your points, but I believe there has to be a penalty to someone who decides to step down, regardless of the cause.
You can't simply just step down, get back in, and be captain again by vote, it doesn't make sense IMO. You would've simply just went around the booting penalty in the first place. I hope you can see how anyone can do what you are trying to do in the future to avoid the booting.
QUOTE (bp9000 @ Nov 15 2010, 12:58 AM)
QUOTE (Elyzrin @ Nov 15 2010, 06:40 AM)
I'm confused....
Hopefully I'm not offending you Ice66, but are you expecting to get back the captaincy after you resigned earlier? This statement seems to indicate that.
On CD's rulings, I don't think there's anything personal, he has to adapt and amend the rules as new circumstances emerge. I'm sorry I feel a bit responsible for this somehow.
Warriors, my apologies for this week's scores, not the start I wanted
QUOTE
I DO NOT wanna join any other team other than my own team, but if I won't be granted captaincy of my own team, then what's the point?
Hopefully I'm not offending you Ice66, but are you expecting to get back the captaincy after you resigned earlier? This statement seems to indicate that.
On CD's rulings, I don't think there's anything personal, he has to adapt and amend the rules as new circumstances emerge. I'm sorry I feel a bit responsible for this somehow.
Warriors, my apologies for this week's scores, not the start I wanted
Actually, I don't think Ice has officially resigned yet - and in light of the twist in the rule change and the fact that he obviously wants to be Warriors team captain, I think he should put in his own twist by just retain his captaincy and dropping one of his crew members rather than himself. I, for one, would think this is fair even if it were me he were to drop.
Elyzrin, you certainly shouldn't feel guilty about anything - you didn't do anything 'cept get chosen from the OOC list!!
That would definitely not break any rule and is 100% valid.
QUOTE (Catalonian_Devil @ Nov 15 2010, 07:03 AM)
You can't simply just step down, get back in, and be captain again by vote, it doesn't make sense IMO. You would've simply just went around the booting penalty in the first place. I hope you can see how anyone can do what you are trying to do in the future to avoid the booting.
sure, how about me sitting on the fence for a longer period of time, if 1 week is too short? i dunno.
QUOTE (Catalonian_Devil @ Nov 15 2010, 07:05 AM)
QUOTE (bp9000 @ Nov 15 2010, 12:58 AM)
Actually, I don't think Ice has officially resigned yet - and in light of the twist in the rule change and the fact that he obviously wants to be Warriors team captain, I think he should put in his own twist by just retain his captaincy and dropping one of his crew members rather than himself. I, for one, would think this is fair even if it were me he were to drop.
That would definitely not break any rule and is 100% valid.
yes, that's a good point. actually, i also did not expect this. i didn't expect that i wouldn't be allowed back to my team as a captain. i thought i would have been given that right. but now that i know, i may or may not do the same... CD, lemme know what you think my suggestion above regarding sitting out for a longer time.
QUOTE (Ice66 @ Nov 15 2010, 01:26 AM)
QUOTE (Catalonian_Devil @ Nov 15 2010, 07:03 AM)
You can't simply just step down, get back in, and be captain again by vote, it doesn't make sense IMO. You would've simply just went around the booting penalty in the first place. I hope you can see how anyone can do what you are trying to do in the future to avoid the booting.
sure, how about me sitting on the fence for a longer period of time, if 1 week is too short? i dunno.
QUOTE (Catalonian_Devil @ Nov 15 2010, 07:05 AM)
QUOTE (bp9000 @ Nov 15 2010, 12:58 AM)
Actually, I don't think Ice has officially resigned yet - and in light of the twist in the rule change and the fact that he obviously wants to be Warriors team captain, I think he should put in his own twist by just retain his captaincy and dropping one of his crew members rather than himself. I, for one, would think this is fair even if it were me he were to drop.
That would definitely not break any rule and is 100% valid.
yes, that's a good point. actually, i also did not expect this. i didn't expect that i wouldn't be allowed back to my team as a captain. i thought i would have been given that right. but now that i know, i may or may not do the same... CD, lemme know what you think my suggestion above regarding sitting out for a longer time.
I hear you on your suggestion, but now it boils down to deciding on the nature of the penalty, and everyone would have a different opinion then, so I'll have to stand by the rule I posted before as the final rule.
QUOTE (KillDevil @ Nov 15 2010, 12:35 PM)
why is it that one person decides wether the so called person can be captain or not? Bp has said that yes ice can do it, what about the other 4 members, don't they get to vote on wether they'd want you back as captain?
Why on earth did you step down in the 1st place of you wanted to keep the role? not sure if you've mentioned it already so apologies if you have.
As CD says, it stops people from getting around the dropping rule and unintentionally or not, you would've avoided dropping a player had you been allowed to just come back as the captain again, what's to stop other captains from doing the same if you were allowed to do it this week? I for one would use that route if CD had let you just stroll back in
Why on earth did you step down in the 1st place of you wanted to keep the role? not sure if you've mentioned it already so apologies if you have.
As CD says, it stops people from getting around the dropping rule and unintentionally or not, you would've avoided dropping a player had you been allowed to just come back as the captain again, what's to stop other captains from doing the same if you were allowed to do it this week? I for one would use that route if CD had let you just stroll back in
kd, i agree. which is why i have suggested that everyone on my team would have to agree in order to allow me back. as to why i decided to step down... dude, i've explained myself too many times already, and i don't wanna repeat myself. basically i felt guilty and i thought i should take responsibility of it. i had no idea that i would not be able to return as a captain. perhaps 1 week is a bit too short, which was why i also suggested something longer - similar to what groover had suggested.
QUOTE (KillDevil @ Nov 15 2010, 01:55 PM)
QUOTE (playtimecharlie @ Nov 15 2010, 12:25 PM)
QUOTE (Spurs Crew @ Nov 15 2010, 07:18 AM)
Ice66, bit of advice, if CD won't let you be captain (rightly or wrongly, I have no clue what's going on over here ), why not just have an arrangement with BP that you make the selections and PM BP that and he can submit it? CD couldn't do anything in that case. Job done. Just call me the problem solver 
), why not just have an arrangement with BP that you make the selections and PM BP that and he can submit it? CD couldn't do anything in that case. Job done. Just call me the problem solver Yeah, but I think Ice wants the badge, the title and the corner office with his name on the door.
And you forget - maybe the other team members 1) don't want Ice back as captain after he
i doubt if anyone will want BP as captain now after the ease with which he was prepared to give up his duties
maybe there's another position you can aim for charlie
apart from eliz, we haven't heard from any other warriors.
there are no position that charlie can aim for, period. sc, thanks for the bit of advice, but like i mentioned earlier, i COULD do that, but there wouldn't be any point in doing so.
ptc, please don't speak for me and please don't speak for my team mates either. they have a voice and they can voice out what they feel.
QUOTE (xabirocks @ Nov 15 2010, 02:04 PM)
Why do we have to wait for other Warriors, CD hasn't allowed a poll yet. Play his game.
We have other drama to follow. One episode is taking too long.
And the disclaimer follows: I am sorry if I sound blunt, I just think this Ice thing has gone on way too long. Prevents pricks like KD and PTC from depraving this place the right way.
We have other drama to follow. One episode is taking too long.
And the disclaimer follows: I am sorry if I sound blunt, I just think this Ice thing has gone on way too long. Prevents pricks like KD and PTC from depraving this place the right way.
perhaps this has indeed taken a bit long... i guess the best thing to do is to discuss it over at the improvement thread rather than this main one. i'm willing to play CD's game and play by HIS rules too... but the thing is some of the rules weren't there to begin with, hence the discussion right now. anyway, i think we're close to a resolution... and i'm sorry for causing all of this.
QUOTE (ExecutorAzmin @ Nov 16 2010, 11:48 PM)
QUOTE (Catalonian_Devil @ Nov 17 2010, 12:13 PM)
Bids and Offers
- The Unholy Demons bid for EddieZen offering 0 points, if succeeds akeem hgm will become a free agent while EddieZen will joins the Demons.
- The Unholy Demons bid for EddieZen offering 0 points, if succeeds akeem hgm will become a free agent while EddieZen will joins the Demons.
Apologies if this has been clarified, but what if another team other than the team required to boot a member wins a bid? WHat happens to the team required to boot a member? Can the Captain automatically select someone else quickly?
Yeah, that's why I put the deadline on the bidding at one day prior to the Line-up deadline, so that to give the captain the opportunity to pick up someone else from the OOC to complete his team.
Maybe I haven't made that part crystal clear in the rules, I'll go ahead and make it clearer...
cheers EA
ANNOUNCEMENT
As you might have already noticed, I've opened up a new thread where all the results will be posted from now on. Another feature of the thread is that I'll be posting line-ups there as well, and I'll update the 'line-up post' as each captain sends me his line-up. Which brings me to the final point, all captain from now on please PM me the line-ups rather than posting them here. I'll send out a PM to all captains in case any missed this announcement. Oh and dont post over at that thread
Enjoy your day...Champions Cup Award Ceremony
Each La Costra Nostra will now recieve a Cup Medal...
Presenting the medals to:
crazylegs
Ironhardt
Supajokas
Expert
Vsberlina
baat
and finally, the head of the family...
Mistaken_Identity
Now these player will enter the Leagues Eternal Hall of Fame...
Furthermore...
La Cosa Nostra recieve
The Pep Guardiola Manager Pass
Pep Guardiola Manager Pass ( Warning: Explicit content )
and The Rafa Benitez Destroyer...
The Silent Assassins recieve one Rafa Beintez Destroyer
The Bestiarii recieve one Pep Guardiola Pass
Brilliant article by Graham Hunter 
Linky
If you're wondering about the debate he is talking about here it is...(skip to 7:00 )
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11833_5354121,00.html
Linky
If you're wondering about the debate he is talking about here it is...(skip to 7:00 )
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11833_5354121,00.html
Updated the rest of the line-ups ...
NOTE ON AWARDS
I would like to make it clear that when the awards are in use, they will only affect the League line-ups, but the captains will normally post line-ups to be used in the Cup. Wanted to clarify this point before someone decides to use a Rafa destroyer on his opponent in the cup semi-final
NOTE ON AWARDS
I would like to make it clear that when the awards are in use, they will only affect the League line-ups, but the captains will normally post line-ups to be used in the Cup. Wanted to clarify this point before someone decides to use a Rafa destroyer on his opponent in the cup semi-final
As promised...
http://www.starting11.com/index.php?showto...mp;#entry251367
Now everything is easy to find in this reference thread...
- There's links now to all team members.
- There is a new Hall of Fame section.
- Transfers as well as other info are now easier to read and all errors were fixed.
- The tedious first post are no more...all updates will be in that thread.
Hope this helps
http://www.starting11.com/index.php?showto...mp;#entry251367
Now everything is easy to find in this reference thread...
- There's links now to all team members.
- There is a new Hall of Fame section.
- Transfers as well as other info are now easier to read and all errors were fixed.
- The tedious first post are no more...all updates will be in that thread.
Hope this helps
QUOTE (leehweb @ Dec 18 2010, 05:50 AM)
Pogo, got your message.. No probs with the change.. However, I have still not heard from Rookies so I may be forced to play myself due to all the late cancellations... Current line up is...
Legatus : RAPID
Archers : PTC, Tallface
Horsemen : Pogophiles, Snicker, Leehweb
Bench: : Rookies
Again, this may change depending on who is on-line ..
Lions - I will be on line until deadline so PM me if you are aware of the cancelled matches..
Cheers chaps..
Lee
Legatus : RAPID
Archers : PTC, Tallface
Horsemen : Pogophiles, Snicker, Leehweb
Bench: : Rookies
Again, this may change depending on who is on-line ..
Lions - I will be on line until deadline so PM me if you are aware of the cancelled matches..
Cheers chaps..
Lee
rookies needs to be kicked off the team.
In the Chelsea match preview he posted "match cancelled" without saying anying else, causing all kinds of confusion. Idiot. Get rid of him, Lee. Seriously, kick him out and get someone else in.
My team has been ripped apart and partially put together again with sticky tape. It's a right mess.
Time to heat things up in here !
Head over there quick!
http://www.starting11.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=252803
Head over there quick!
http://www.starting11.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=252803
ARENA ANNOUNCEMENT
It happened...
It was inevitable tbh, but I have just received news that the Arena monster has grown so big, so huge, so overwhelming, that the whole of S11 couldn't handle it! Yes folks, yesterdays 'site crash' was caused by the Arena, the monster that was born within the host has attempted to take over !
To tame this beast, posts will be trimmed and from now on, there will be weekly Arena threads rather than this one monster thread...
I'll startthe new weekly thread soon...
If you have been a part of this monster thread consider yourself etched in S11 history
Hi y'all.
We've been talking to CD about the need to control the database usage of the Arena's posts.
This thread is obsolete. Please post in the weekly (or perhaps semi-weekly) thread. Currently it is called Arena Battle 18.
The reason we are doing this is that this competition, being immensely popular at S11, generates far too many posts to be able to keep them indefinitely. We will be deleting the old content periodically, as we do with Woes & Triumphs, RMT, Player Picks and so on.
We've been talking to CD about the need to control the database usage of the Arena's posts.
This thread is obsolete. Please post in the weekly (or perhaps semi-weekly) thread. Currently it is called Arena Battle 18.
The reason we are doing this is that this competition, being immensely popular at S11, generates far too many posts to be able to keep them indefinitely. We will be deleting the old content periodically, as we do with Woes & Triumphs, RMT, Player Picks and so on.
QUOTE (Catalonian_Devil @ Dec 24 2010, 11:10 PM)
ARENA ANNOUNCEMENT
It happened...
It was inevitable tbh, but I have just received news that the Arena monster has grown so big, so huge, so overwhelming, that the whole of S11 couldn't handle it! Yes folks, yesterdays 'site crash' was caused by the Arena, the monster that was born within the host has attempted to take over !
To tame this beast, posts will be trimmed and from now on, there will be weekly Arena threads rather than this one monster thread...
I'll startthe new weekly thread soon...
If you have been a part of this monster thread consider yourself etched in S11 history
The Arena didn't crash the site.
However, we do need to keep things trim, which is more difficult when there are scazillions of posts in one big, massively popular, whopper of a thread. Hence the request to do a weekly thread, so we can easily delete an entire week's worth of stale banter with a couple of mouse clicks.
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