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Netley Lucas
post Nov 16 2017, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE (the_juice @ Nov 16 2017, 02:34 AM) *
Is it like an Irish Red? I have been enjoying some sweet browns and reds lately.

Have any of you in England tried any of the beer from Black Sheep? When I lived in Teesside there was a pub that had it on tap, fresh and delicious. Iíve tried ordering some online but the bastards wonít ship to Canada.


He's a Southerner laugh.gif . Lancaster Brewery hasn't been going all that long but they do a Blonde, Amber, Black & Red, the latter tastes best to me and is fine strength wise too - if you're having a sesh.

Black Sheep is very popular up here too, both the draught bitter and the slightly stronger bottled ale. Riggwelter is good too @5.7 but is just getting a bit strong so best to enjoy then drop to a nice 4(ish) or you'll get pissed laugh.gif

TJ, I note Asda & Tesco do Banks's Amber Bitter @90p a 500ml bottle up here... it appears to be the same as Banks's current draught bitter served in pubs. Have you tried it recently?


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post Nov 16 2017, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (Netley Lucas @ Nov 16 2017, 08:31 AM) *
TJ, I note Asda & Tesco do Banks's Amber Bitter @90p a 500ml bottle up here... it appears to be the same as Banks's current draught bitter served in pubs. Have you tried it recently?


Wow! I will definitely check that out. My beer journey went from hating the stuff to having to drink those little bieres blondes at the 1998 World Cup (as there was no cider) all the way to being an ale drinker.

We have some great breweries around Oxford. Hobgoblin you might know - Wychwood brewery.

Reading all these posts really makes me want to visit east coast US and Holland again, and do it properly this time biggrin.gif.

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post Nov 16 2017, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE (Peterorange @ Nov 16 2017, 10:33 AM) *
Wow! I will definitely check that out. My beer journey went from hating the stuff to having to drink those little bieres blondes at the 1998 World Cup (as there was no cider) all the way to being an ale drinker.

We have some great breweries around Oxford. Hobgoblin you might know - Wychwood brewery.

Reading all these posts really makes me want to visit east coast US and Holland again, and do it properly this time biggrin.gif.


As I've got older the desire to get pissed on lager has lessened and the bitter that was once yuck is actually quite good. Tastes change I guess and it seems that if you buy from the supermarkets the prices are ridiculously cheap. I really like Hobgoblin despite the gimmicky branding, tastes great, lovely & smooth but not sickly at all. Priced well too at £1.25 per bottle... must go for a walk, with the big bag! laugh.gif

Some of the stronger ales mentioned on here appear quite specialist but I suppose if you started with one and then reverted to steadier stuff you could get away with it.


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post Nov 16 2017, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (Netley Lucas @ Nov 16 2017, 07:04 AM) *
As I've got older the desire to get pissed on lager has lessened and the bitter that was once yuck is actually quite good. Tastes change I guess and it seems that if you buy from the supermarkets the prices are ridiculously cheap. I really like Hobgoblin despite the gimmicky branding, tastes great, lovely & smooth but not sickly at all. Priced well too at £1.25 per bottle... must go for a walk, with the big bag! laugh.gif

Some of the stronger ales mentioned on here appear quite specialist but I suppose if you started with one and then reverted to steadier stuff you could get away with it.



LOL, funny you mentioned that. I remember the "older more mature" drinking Bass all the time at the local, at the bar there would be a tray of half poured ales. I wish i tried it. No doubt i'd enjoy it now.

As far as Black Sheep goes, it's the Rigwelter i'd like to try. I belong to their mailing list and enjoy reading about all the different beers they have. Interesting that they have a local artist (Mackenzie Thorpe) do their labeling. I use to go to his studio in Richmond, he has some interesting paintings, fitting.
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post Nov 16 2017, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (the_juice @ Nov 16 2017, 03:37 PM) *
LOL, funny you mentioned that. I remember the "older more mature" drinking Bass all the time at the local, at the bar there would be a tray of half poured ales. I wish i tried it. No doubt i'd enjoy it now.

As far as Black Sheep goes, it's the Rigwelter i'd like to try. I belong to their mailing list and enjoy reading about all the different beers they have. Interesting that they have a local artist (Mackenzie Thorpe) do their labeling. I use to go to his studio in Richmond, he has some interesting paintings, fitting.


Started drinking in pubs early 80's, bitter, but it was so unreliable and lager wasn't, so the early switch was inevitable and long-lasting, right up to the banning of smoking in pubs. Now it's great to see so many ales being sold off-licence and the quality is good and the cost relatively cheap, even the very top ales quoted on here won't set folk back too much.
Can't say I'm into it as much as others on here but it's certainly got me thinking and planning for a 100% 'real' ale winter.


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QUOTE (Netley Lucas @ Nov 16 2017, 06:54 PM) *
Started drinking in pubs early 80's, bitter, but it was so unreliable and lager wasn't, so the early switch was inevitable and long-lasting, right up to the banning of smoking in pubs. Now it's great to see so many ales being sold off-licence and the quality is good and the cost relatively cheap, even the very top ales quoted on here won't set folk back too much.
Can't say I'm into it as much as others on here but it's certainly got me thinking and planning for a 100% 'real' ale winter.

Wow thats some statement Netters coming fro you a devout lager (Stella) drinker ohmy.gif and a good swap if I may say so too!
Yes if you plan the promotions and discounts in the supermarkets right you could do a good job mopping up some super quality ale for christmas, new year and beyond, I'll keep my eyes open for promotions for you...What supermarkets do you use regular so I know what to look out for?

I have every supermarket bar Morrisons around me so always get good selections of deals when available and most are nearly always national


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post Nov 16 2017, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (crazylegs @ Nov 16 2017, 03:06 PM) *
What supermarkets do you use regular so I know what to look out for?

I have every supermarket bar Morrisons around me so always get good selections of deals when available and most are nearly always national

Let me know when Poundland has some deals going.
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Okay, let's start at the bottom, the Rob Elliot of real ales.



Walked to Aldi, got 8 x 500ml bottles for £7.12 and a nice 5 mile walk too. biggrin.gif

It's been rebranded but is the bog standard Banks's Bitter brewed by Marston's in Wolverhampton and presumably is being sold so cheap on heavy volumes/small margins to the supermarkets. It's a decent 'pint', only 3.8 but there's nothing to complain about, arguably should be dearer but who's going to complain? Needs a good few swigs to get it, no head, a fruity twang and no nasty aftertaste, solid enough lighter fare as back-up to the heavier stuff or just drink it all day, won't do much damage, 6.5/10 on taste, 9/10 on value.


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Never been a great fan of Banks's bitter, but Marstons Pedigree is a nice drop of stuff smile.gif


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post Nov 16 2017, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE (crazylegs @ Nov 16 2017, 10:53 PM) *
Never been a great fan of Banks's bitter, but Marstons Pedigree is a nice drop of stuff smile.gif


It's fine mate, thing is I've only had Banks on draught in pubs before tonight and you're at the mercy of the landlord and his pipe cleaning regime laugh.gif so at least with bottled bitter you're getting a clean ale and I can safely say for a weakish bitter it's going down a treat and starting to 'warm' nicely. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Netley Lucas @ Nov 16 2017, 10:20 PM) *
Okay, let's start at the bottom, the Rob Elliot of real ales.



Yes it's not bad. wink.gif..talking of bargains ...lidl do the best craft ales at the "cheap" end but are better then the big breweries more expensive range. their brewery is heatherwood I think....example......"Green Gecko" IPA 5% is my go to IPA...all their range I would mark 7/10 or higher


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QUOTE (tigerjames @ Nov 16 2017, 11:14 PM) *
Yes it's not bad. wink.gif..talking of bargains ...lidl do the best craft ales at the "cheap" end but are better then the big breweries more expensive range. their brewery is heatherwood I think....example......"Green Gecko" IPA 5% is my go to IPA...all their range I would mark 7/10 or higher


Bigger walk but might be worth it laugh.gif . This is rebranding madness, it's Marston's/Banks again and @£1.19 sounds a nice step-up in class, cheers TJ. agree.gif


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QUOTE (tigerjames @ Nov 16 2017, 11:14 PM) *
Yes it's not bad. wink.gif..talking of bargains ...lidl do the best craft ales at the "cheap" end but are better then the big breweries more expensive range. their brewery is heatherwood I think....example......"Green Gecko" IPA 5% is my go to IPA...all their range I would mark 7/10 or higher

I don't have access to a Lidl's as there are none near me but I do have access to an Aldi's about a mile away and they have a half decent range of real ales that I' yet to try so will have to pop in there for a visit and see what they have to offer


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QUOTE (crazylegs @ Nov 16 2017, 07:53 PM) *
Never been a great fan of Banks's bitter, but Marstons Pedigree is a nice drop of stuff smile.gif


I agree, Pedigree is nice. Muscle a few down before the bar, then itís on to Carling Premier.
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QUOTE (Netley Lucas @ Nov 16 2017, 11:26 PM) *
@£1.19 sounds a nice step-up in class, cheers TJ. agree.gif

Friend loves their golden ale...if you like porters they do a lovely one called panther...again £1:19.....they are genuinely great beers not just because their value...enjoy

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I don't have access to a Lidl's as there are none near me


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QUOTE (the_juice @ Nov 16 2017, 11:39 PM) *
I agree, Pedigree is nice. Muscle a few down before the bar, then itís on to Carling Premier.

Canada have a great homebrew crowd...
"Craig tube" great guy...also some great beers


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QUOTE (crazylegs @ Nov 15 2017, 08:48 PM) *
Go on just admit it..You were p*ssed weren't ya! laugh.gif

Yes..lol

QUOTE (Netley Lucas @ Nov 16 2017, 08:31 AM) *
Riggwelter is good too @5.7 but is just getting a bit strong so best to enjoy then drop to a nice 4(ish) or you'll get pissed laugh.gif

TJ, I note Asda & Tesco do Banks's Amber Bitter @90p a 500ml


Riggwelter is the best of the black sheep range...full of flavour true Yorkshire ale, another I buy regular...
The banks one is nice for the price ...but Asda have a rival bottle at £1
"Bass" ale number 1 4.4%


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QUOTE (tigerjames @ Nov 16 2017, 10:41 PM) *
Friend loves their golden ale...if you like porters they do a lovely one called panther...again £1:19.....they are genuinely great beers not just because their value...enjoy



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Canada have a great homebrew crowd...
"Craig tube" great guy...also some great beers



Yes we do have a home brew crowd, Iím one of them biggrin.gif I have a 20l Speidel Braumeister, all grain electric system. Itís a great unit, up until now iíve been bottling, with plans to upgrade to a keg system. As you know itís a long day and isnít as easy as it sounds . My last brew was a pale ale, hopped and dry hopped with Mosaic, turned out a little thin but enjoyable. What beers do you brew?
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QUOTE (the_juice @ Nov 17 2017, 03:11 AM) *
Yes we do have a home brew crowd, Iím one of them biggrin.gif I have a 20l Speidel Braumeister, all grain electric system. Itís a great unit, up until now iíve been bottling, with plans to upgrade to a keg system. As you know itís a long day and isnít as easy as it sounds . My last brew was a pale ale, hopped and dry hopped with Mosaic, turned out a little thin but enjoyable. What beers do you brew?


Wow impressive!!
Not done a brew for about 5 months sad.gif
Mixture of time and it being too hot ohmy.gif
I normally do a mini mash....don't do all grain yet...don't have all the equipment...love doing stouts porters...they for some reason are always my biggest success.. chocolate, coffee vanilla love them
Normally i always aim for 30 pints rather then 40 pints... Find the yeast is more successful...that's my theory rolleyes.gif .....a lot of the time I use cheap honey rather then brewing sugar ....aim for 5/6%


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QUOTE (tigerjames @ Nov 17 2017, 12:22 AM) *
Wow impressive!!
Not done a brew for about 5 months sad.gif
Mixture of time and it being too hot ohmy.gif
I normally do a mini mash....don't do all grain yet...don't have all the equipment...love doing stouts porters...they for some reason are always my biggest success.. chocolate, coffee vanilla love them
Normally i always aim for 30 pints rather then 40 pints... Find the yeast is more successful...that's my theory rolleyes.gif .....a lot of the time I use cheap honey rather then brewing sugar ....aim for 5/6%



If your not gonna do a yeast starter then make a smaller batch, I like your theory. I add two packs of yeast, too lazy to harvest and grow. I would like to try brewing a porter or an oatmeal stout.

Thereís a great brewery here that brews an oatmeal brown ale, Eephus oatmeal brown ale by Leftfeild Brewery. They canít keep them on the shelf . Thanks for reminding me to get some.
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QUOTE (the_juice @ Nov 17 2017, 05:04 AM) *
Thereís a great brewery here that brews an oatmeal brown ale, Eephus oatmeal brown ale by Leftfeild Brewery.


Yeast starter is for the experts and the brave...they can go wrong,
but the two packs of yeast is a sound idea...it just starts to build the cost..
Oatmeal... beautiful drink when right...know what I'm getting for Christmas now smile.gif


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