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Fil Ferret
post Apr 30 2018, 12:24 AM
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Only way to keep benched players happy is by putting a limit on how many times they are benched.
It could be done either by saying no more than "2 weeks in a row" and/or no more than 9 times in a season, that way everybody gets benched similar amount of times.

This will then involve the Capts more as they may need to find a mix of good n bad some weeks in order to gain the best possible score.

Myself I wouldn't like to be benched the majority of weeks ..... which would be the case if this season is used as an example, as this would lead to loss of interest and the "Why did I bother" syndrome.



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post Apr 30 2018, 12:26 AM
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post Apr 30 2018, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE (RAPID @ Apr 30 2018, 01:23 AM) *
Then you off!


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post Apr 30 2018, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE (Netley Lucas @ Apr 30 2018, 03:27 AM) *
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post Apr 30 2018, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE (Fil Ferret @ Apr 30 2018, 01:24 AM) *
Myself I wouldn't like to be benched the majority of weeks ..... which would be the case if this season is used as an example, as this would lead to loss of interest and the "Why did I bother" syndrome.


I see your point...but don't feel we need a rule...it's down to the team and the captain...having too many rules gets silly...
If people leave they leave...I will play all my team equally if they are all active....problem solved....don't need a rule...
Up to the other managers how they play their group


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post Apr 30 2018, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (tigerjames @ Apr 29 2018, 08:32 PM) *
I see your point...but don't feel we need a rule...it's down to the team and the captain...having too many rules gets silly...
If people leave they leave...I will play all my team equally if they are all active....problem solved....don't need a rule...
Up to the other managers how they play their group

That's also cool...so long as the people know they might spend their season on the bench. Just gotta make it clear up front that it's a possibility.
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post Apr 30 2018, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE (RAPID @ Apr 30 2018, 01:30 AM) *
No, we don't need ya at all!


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TJ - with half your current team in the bottom 15 league places, it'll work to your advantage if you can bench a few more each week. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 30 2018, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE (Netley Lucas @ Apr 29 2018, 08:40 PM) *
I'm not happy with the (Russian) bear-baiting that goes on

You have a choice.

Ignore him.

Report him and let Admin deal with it.

Engage him and get yourself banned.
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post Apr 30 2018, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE (PTC @ Apr 30 2018, 01:43 AM) *
TJ - with half your current team in the bottom 15 league places, it'll work to your advantage if you can bench a few more each week. biggrin.gif


I have a very happy team...it helps keep the members happy
That's the point of the arena..... smile.gif

I'll rotate..... it will be fun and a lottery.....the way I like it biggrin.gif
Hopefully we get more captains and we have 8 a side..
Trust me next year we will be collectively alot stronger


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post Apr 30 2018, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE (tigerjames @ Apr 30 2018, 12:13 AM) *
Pointless before you see how many people join

right, so the problem really is with the lack of captains.

why do you think so little ppl wanna be captains? cuz it's a lot of responsibility. you gotta first figure our your own fpl team, then you've gotta ask everyone from your team (11 players, if we go with current standards) to submit their likely FINAL team (and things do change last minute), and then make a decision based on who's team is better.

how about if we scrap this whole idea of captaincy? if we're a team, we're a team. either do average of all team members or just do totals. simple as that. anyone from the teams can tally up the scores, or this can be automated with excel and/or google sheets and we're done.

that way, the arena can grow and everyone will be happy. we can setup individual duels, like send a rep from each team to duel it out... but that will be a side event, not the MAIN one, if you want.
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Its an option....easy for sure.


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post Apr 30 2018, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE (PTC @ Apr 30 2018, 03:44 AM) *
You have a choice.

Ignore him.

Report him and let Admin deal with it.

Engage him and get yourself banned.

Used to be a friend now a putridity...


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post Apr 30 2018, 05:09 AM
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After reading all the suggestions, I do agree with some points.

Captain to submit team score
It is time for us, the captains to help NL. It will refresh our memories during YFF WC competition. All captains (or VC if the captain is missing) will submit the score to the main thread.

7 players in weekly lineup
I strongly agree this one. And it will be the captain choice to pick their team members. Although only 7 players will be selected for each week, team captain can use their creativity to involve every team members in their internal competition. So that the bench players will have something to fight for. Like football, if your want to play in first-eleven, you have to perform more than average. Unhappy players can always ask for transfer request.



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post Apr 30 2018, 05:15 AM
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QUOTE (Netley Lucas @ Apr 29 2018, 07:57 PM) *
Can't do the 1st unless we cut-off bud. Got some great newbies last time. Can you take a squad bud? So you select 7 from say 10 or more? You decide who to play each week? Tactical advantage, rest inactive players etc? I note your team has suffered from the lack of what I am suggesting... and mine has gained... evens things up in your bloody favour? lol.gif



Ok. I agree that we have only 7 players running also. It is too hectic to manage all 10 players and many inactive.
We can keep the rest on the bench if there is not enough captains.


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post Apr 30 2018, 06:07 AM
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I'm tempted to run a Band of Muppets & croak from the front ... give me some time to sit on my Lily pad and contemplate.

Though being in Oz, (8hrs ahead), it's not the best place to be with regards to games starting and ending.



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post Apr 30 2018, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE (Fil Ferret @ Apr 30 2018, 07:07 AM) *
Though being in Oz, (8hrs ahead), it's not the best place to be with regards to games starting and ending.


Have a vice captain on the other side of the world smile.gif


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post Apr 30 2018, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (Fil Ferret @ Apr 30 2018, 07:07 AM) *
I'm tempted to run a Band of Muppets & croak from the front ... give me some time to sit on my Lily pad and contemplate.

Though being in Oz, (8hrs ahead), it's not the best place to be with regards to games starting and ending.



Wow, didn't expect that! laugh.gif Obviously it would be a great shame to lose you from Renegades but I did the same thing, joined Assassins - won it - then left to form Renegades and 3 years later won it! laugh.gif

I sense you are a good communicator and will generate great team spirit and a lively team thread - it's what the Arena really needs.

I don't sense you are doing this simply because the Arena needs a 7th team because that would likely end in failure. We had a 7th team called Suicide Squad 2 seasons ago and they not only finished bottom by miles but failed to submit team order twice! This was frowned upon by the community so please be aware of the commitment required and the duty to the game and the players you will take on.

You would have the pick of the newbies, I think some decent active players may join next season (I've asked around, some are keen) so that will be a good start. You may also attract interest from existing players seeking a fresh start in a new team.

This doesn't solve the benching headache but you will have the pleasure of deciding who to bench each week laugh.gif
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post Apr 30 2018, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (saroof @ Apr 30 2018, 06:15 AM) *
Ok. I agree that we have only 7 players running also. It is too hectic to manage all 10 players and many inactive.
We can keep the rest on the bench if there is not enough captains.


It became a bit unwieldy with 11 and it's a real headache to score even 1 team, let alone 6 laugh.gif

If we go back to 1-2-4 it will be so much easier to score - any team member can do it quickly - and the captains will be able to use the bench as they see fit.

If FF does form a 7th team then that would be 49 needed, the excess (maybe 20 or so) can make decent squads, 7 teams of 10? That would be the same as FFS Community Watch tournament, captain picks 7 benches 3 each week after assessing all 10 teams. So there is precedent for this, I'm not just making it up laugh.gif
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QUOTE (rothion @ Apr 30 2018, 06:09 AM) *
After reading all the suggestions, I do agree with some points.

Captain to submit team score
It is time for us, the captains to help NL. It will refresh our memories during YFF WC competition. All captains (or VC if the captain is missing) will submit the score to the main thread.

7 players in weekly lineup
I strongly agree this one. And it will be the captain choice to pick their team members. Although only 7 players will be selected for each week, team captain can use their creativity to involve every team members in their internal competition. So that the bench players will have something to fight for. Like football, if your want to play in first-eleven, you have to perform more than average. Unhappy players can always ask for transfer request.


Cheers bud agree.gif I don't necessarily think it has to be the captain who submits the team score each week as long as they do it right and take off the hits WALOR! laugh.gif Maybe discuss it with your team and get a few trying it just to get the feel of it.
It should add a bit of much needed fun laugh.gif

The benching thing works well on FFS Community Watch, a real test for captains as we will be benching good scores and will have to be aware of form at all times.
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