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Posted by: BRFC Apr 4 2016, 06:16 PM

QUOTE (petpethai @ Apr 19 2015, 03:37 PM) *
One Day by David Nicholls


Recommended this to few of my friends and all of them love it. I'd read it 3 times rolleyes.gif

Wow, this thread is pretty dead. Might pick this one up though pph. Thanks.


Posted by: BRFC Apr 4 2016, 06:21 PM

Some of the ones I've read this past year that I likes:
"Hotel New Hampshire" by John Irving
"Number 9 dream" by David Mitchell
"The Castle" by Kafka

Of course also a bunch of Dutch books biggrin.gif

Read some of the other Mitchells too, but none come close to Number 9 dream.

Posted by: D. B. Apr 4 2016, 06:52 PM

Just recently read The Turner Diaries by William Luther Pierce.

Crikey shock.gif

Posted by: Netley Lucas Apr 4 2016, 07:15 PM

Audiobooks count? huh.gif

The Complete Talking Heads written by Alan Bennett and read by the actors/actresses from the TV series years ago. Funny and of course deeply touching. 10/10

Posted by: BRFC Apr 4 2016, 07:36 PM

QUOTE (Netley Lucas @ Apr 4 2016, 09:15 PM) *
Audiobooks count? huh.gif

The Complete Talking Heads written by Alan Bennett and read by the actors/actresses from the TV series years ago. Funny and of course deeply touching. 10/10

Of course thumbsup.gif

Never heard of though laugh.gif

Posted by: crazylegs Apr 4 2016, 07:44 PM

Speaking of audiobooks

I'm half way through "The Watchmaker of Filigree street"

Utterly beguiling, The Watchmaker of Filigree Street blends historical events with dazzling flights of fancy to plunge readers into a strange and magical past, where time, destiny, genius – and a clockwork octopus – collide

Its not bad at all wink.gif

Posted by: scoobyliscious Apr 4 2016, 11:06 PM

I keep waiting on George R. R. to finish A Song of Ice and Fire. The fact that the TV series is now ahead of the books is irksome, since now I have to worry about spoilers.

Trying to work my way through http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GQ6043A/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1 but I find myself, once again, lamenting the more modern approaches to Sherlock (cough cough execrable Robert Downey Jr. "action" cough cough crap cough cough lost the spirit of the original cough cough). At least Laurie King (the author) has a clear understanding of "the game" even while she both plays, and subverts, it (for those not familiar, "the game" occurs when super-nerds pretend all of the tales of Sherlock Holmes are non-fiction, and Watson a legitimate diarist). Somehow, though, the mid-novel switch to an undefined, all-encompassing villain has lessened, rather than deepened, the mystery. It's much of a muchness and a little too "Nefarious They" (as in, "they say ...") for my tastes. And it feels cheap to praise the characters when one of them is perhaps the most famous literary character of them all.

I'm also slowly working my way through Jeffrey Steingarten (food writer for Esquire and maybe the New York Times?) collections. He's great (his lament for phen-fen is hilarious), but essay collections can only hold so much amusement. Great for airplanes, but I want a full novel when I'm lying on the beach for vacation. What can I say: I need plot and a story to keep my interest (same goes for TV or Movies - I don't expect complicated plot or a surprise twist, but I need something to keep me interested in what happens next).

I need some brain candy, though, so I'm looking for a new Sci-Fi (or Fantasy, tbh) series, since ASOIAF appears to have gone to the TV. Any recommendations?

Posted by: PTC Apr 5 2016, 11:49 PM

QUOTE (scoobyliscious @ Apr 4 2016, 07:06 PM) *
I keep waiting on George R. R. to finish A Song of Ice and Fire. The fact that the TV series is now ahead of the books is irksome, since now I have to worry about spoilers.

I need some brain candy, though, so I'm looking for a new Sci-Fi (or Fantasy, tbh) series, since ASOIAF appears to have gone to the TV. Any recommendations?

The Game of Thrones people are going to give up waiting before too long and will just make up their own storylines. The man needs to get a move on.


I haven't read them, but I did download them to my Kindle...Kevin Hearne's Iron Druid Chronicles. No idea if it's your cup of tea so don't hate me if it's a load of nonsense.

Have you read Stephen King's Dark Tower series? Been a while since I read them but I seem to remember enjoying them.

Posted by: PTC Apr 5 2016, 11:52 PM

QUOTE (crazylegs @ Apr 4 2016, 03:44 PM) *
Speaking of audiobooks

I've never been able to get into audio books. I wish I could, if only for the convenience, but I just can't do it.

Maybe I just haven't found the right narrators to appeal to my sensitive ears. biggrin.gif

Posted by: crazylegs Apr 6 2016, 09:37 AM

QUOTE (PTC @ Apr 6 2016, 12:52 AM) *
I've never been able to get into audio books. I wish I could, if only for the convenience, but I just can't do it.

Maybe I just haven't found the right narrators to appeal to my sensitive ears. biggrin.gif

I found it hard at first but made my transition easier by listening to a few autobiographies first that were narrated by their authors, then slowly weaned myself onto books read by well known narrators and then onto standard audio's


Posted by: scoobyliscious Apr 6 2016, 01:58 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Apr 5 2016, 07:52 PM) *
I've never been able to get into audio books. I wish I could, if only for the convenience, but I just can't do it.

Maybe I just haven't found the right narrators to appeal to my sensitive ears. biggrin.gif



QUOTE (crazylegs @ Apr 6 2016, 05:37 AM) *
I found it hard at first but made my transition easier by listening to a few autobiographies first that were narrated by their authors, then slowly weaned myself onto books read by well known narrators and then onto standard audio's


Take a good, old-fashioned Road Trip. Pick something you're fairly certain you will like, maybe even something you have already read. Find a good narrator (I haven't done the research, but I'm sure there are more well-known narrators out there). Get in your car, turn on the book and start driving.

Audiobooks are even better than good music for melting the miles (and miles and miles) away. The Wife and I recently traveled to Asheville, North Carolina for a wedding. It's about a 6 hour drive (one way) for us. We listened to (most of) Ruth Ware's In a Dark, Dark Wood (the book itself made NPR's best of 2015 list and the narrator is the same as for the Bridget Jones books, which, sure, is a recommendation). I like that drive (pretty mountains and trees), but I've done it before (it's basically to and through Great Smoky Mountain National Park), so it was nice to have a mystery help the miles go by easily. Particularly if you are stuck up hill behind an 18-wheeler. We made great time, particularly on the way home (those last few hours through Kentucky aren't exactly the most thrilling drive) and I "read" a book during a 3-day extended weekend vacation. All in all, a pretty good deal.

Posted by: scoobyliscious Apr 6 2016, 02:02 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Apr 5 2016, 07:49 PM) *
The Game of Thrones people are going to give up waiting before too long and will just make up their own storylines. The man needs to get a move on.


I haven't read them, but I did download them to my Kindle...Kevin Hearne's Iron Druid Chronicles. No idea if it's your cup of tea so don't hate me if it's a load of nonsense.

Have you read Stephen King's Dark Tower series? Been a while since I read them but I seem to remember enjoying them.

I'll have to look up the Iron Druid Chronicles. It sounds right up my alley.

As for Stephen King, I'm not a huge fan. Just doesn't do it for me. I have a more elaborate explanation about not liking his characters and the whole supernatural explains all, even if it lacks internal consistency, but in the end it boils down to: just doesn't do it for me.

Posted by: JFG Apr 6 2016, 02:14 PM

QUOTE (scoobyliscious @ Apr 6 2016, 03:02 PM) *
As for Stephen King, I'm not a huge fan. Just doesn't do it for me.

His early stuff was terrific but he peaked about 20 years ago.

Posted by: PTC Apr 6 2016, 03:49 PM

QUOTE (scoobyliscious @ Apr 6 2016, 09:58 AM) *
Audiobooks are even better than good music for melting the miles (and miles and miles) away. The Wife and I recently traveled to Asheville, North Carolina for a wedding. It's about a 6 hour drive (one way) for us. We listened to (most of) Ruth Ware's In a Dark, Dark Wood (the book itself made NPR's best of 2015 list and the narrator is the same as for the Bridget Jones books, which, sure, is a recommendation).

I have that Ruth Ware book on my library wait list. wink.gif

Asheville is a great place. Last time I was there was also for a wedding, in a barn, somewhere near Biltmore.

Posted by: PTC Apr 6 2016, 03:55 PM

QUOTE (crazylegs @ Apr 6 2016, 05:37 AM) *
I found it hard at first but made my transition easier by listening to a few autobiographies first that were narrated by their authors, then slowly weaned myself onto books read by well known narrators and then onto standard audio's

I just looked through the stuff I sort of randomly downloaded on my Kindle a few months back and here are some of the autobiographies that I found, but have yet to read:
David Jason
Marilyn Manson
Morrissey
Ellen Degeneres laugh.gif ohmy.gif No idea how this got here, but I'm sure I'll still be reading it. biggrin.gif

Posted by: PTC Apr 6 2016, 03:59 PM

QUOTE (scoobyliscious @ Apr 6 2016, 10:02 AM) *
I'll have to look up the Iron Druid Chronicles. It sounds right up my alley.

As for Stephen King, I'm not a huge fan. Just doesn't do it for me. I have a more elaborate explanation about not liking his characters and the whole supernatural explains all, even if it lacks internal consistency, but in the end it boils down to: just doesn't do it for me.

Another fantasy series I have downloaded, but have yet to look at: Jim Butcher "The Dresden Files".

Posted by: scoobyliscious Apr 6 2016, 05:07 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Apr 6 2016, 11:49 AM) *
I have that Ruth Ware book on my library wait list. wink.gif

Asheville is a great place. Last time I was there was also for a wedding, in a barn, somewhere near Biltmore.

In that case, I would actually recommend the audio book. The narrator does a good job of differentiating dialog by character (not necessarily the easiest to do). If you are already looking to read the book, it's as good a place as any to start with the listening.

Or, you could just be someone who doesn't like to listen, because he reads fast enough. I'll admit that I only like the audio book when I'm in a non-reading environment, like a long-distance car ride (as a child, I actually read a lot in a car, but these days it's just as likely to lead to serious nausea / car sickness as anything else).


Posted by: xabirocks Apr 7 2016, 02:29 AM

Asheville brings back memories from over 10 years ago, when I was in NC. Really miss the prettiness of the place, and the state in general. crying.gif It's where I went to school, they were some of my best years. Thanks for rekindling them.

I've been looking for starting audiobooks myself - never been an avid physical book reader, so I've wanted to give this a try. I'll plan to start with scoob's reco.


Posted by: Netley Lucas Apr 29 2016, 05:29 PM

Not at all sure why I got the High-Rise audiobook this month. It's about a massive block of expensive flats in London and how the different classes of people/occupations are separated and resent one another to the point of action. Narrated very well by the main actor in the film it chugs along quite nicely - into about 2 hours of 6 atm - but not a barrel of laughs so far and getting darker, bit Clockwork Orangey. 7/10 so far, it's okay.

Posted by: RAPID Nov 11 2017, 07:25 PM

Hey, what's to read?! Probably in original (English)... thinking.gif

Posted by: BRFC Nov 12 2017, 05:40 PM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Nov 11 2017, 08:25 PM) *
Hey, what's to read?! Probably in original (English)... thinking.gif

Whatcha looking for? smile.gif

Seems like we have enough readers to share their thoughts on different genres.

Posted by: RAPID Nov 12 2017, 10:03 PM

QUOTE (BRFC @ Nov 12 2017, 08:40 PM) *
Whatcha looking for? smile.gif

Seems like we have enough readers to share their thoughts on different genres.

I like something of detective... Some psychology too... with a drop of philosophy! wink.gif

Posted by: PTC Nov 12 2017, 10:06 PM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Nov 12 2017, 06:03 PM) *
I like something of detective... Some psychology too... with a drop of philosophy! wink.gif

How about the Harry Hole series by Jo Nesbo?


Posted by: RAPID Nov 12 2017, 11:10 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 13 2017, 01:06 AM) *
How about the Harry Hole series by Jo Nesbo?

Googled... and it's a good suggestion! thumbsup.gif Though I'd like a more classic one...

P.S. Damn Charlie! Jo Nesbø was born 29th March as opposed to my 30th... moreover his 60 to my 90!!! Conspiracy?! biggrin.gif

Posted by: PTC Nov 12 2017, 11:30 PM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Nov 12 2017, 06:10 PM) *
Googled... and it's a good suggestion! thumbsup.gif Though I'd like a more classic one...

P.S. Damn Charlie! Jo Nesbø was born 29th March as opposed to my 30th... moreover his 60 to my 90!!! Conspiracy?! biggrin.gif

Not sure what constitutes a classic.

Agatha Christie? biggrin.gif

Posted by: xabirocks Nov 13 2017, 06:25 AM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 13 2017, 03:36 AM) *
How about the Harry Hole series by Jo Nesbo?


I have a couple at home - that my wife has read.
Nice reminder, PTC, will get to it. thumbsup.gif

Really need pickup my reading habit.

Posted by: PTC Nov 13 2017, 06:49 PM

QUOTE (xabirocks @ Nov 13 2017, 01:25 AM) *
I have a couple at home - that my wife has read.
Nice reminder, PTC, will get to it. thumbsup.gif

Really need pickup my reading habit.

You have a lot of catching up to do. There are 11 books in the series.

Recently, a film adaption of the 7th book - The Snowman - was released.

I'll watch it, but I hear that it's not good.

Posted by: JFG Nov 13 2017, 07:22 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 13 2017, 06:49 PM) *
Recently, a film adaption of the 7th book - The Snowman - was released. I'll watch it, but I hear that it's not good.

It's not... good... at all.

Posted by: RAPID Nov 13 2017, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (xabirocks @ Nov 13 2017, 09:25 AM) *
Nice reminder, PTC, will get to it. thumbsup.gif

Really need pickup my reading habit.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Posted by: RAPID Nov 13 2017, 08:51 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 13 2017, 09:49 PM) *
Recently, a film adaption of the 7th book - The Snowman - was released.

I'll watch it, but I hear that it's not good.

A book will always beat a film... well, the read one for sure! wink.gif

Posted by: RAPID Nov 29 2017, 11:32 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 13 2017, 01:06 AM) *
How about the Harry Hole series by Jo Nesbo?

Got the first book!

Posted by: PTC Nov 30 2017, 01:14 AM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Nov 29 2017, 06:32 PM) *
Got the first book!

I would have emailed you the rest of the ebook series...but I seem to have lost the pdf files. sad.gif

Posted by: RAPID Nov 30 2017, 01:20 AM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 30 2017, 04:14 AM) *
I would have emailed you the rest of the ebook series...but I seem to have lost the pdf files. sad.gif

I know all of them! Just need to start from the beginning... I read slowly! sad.gif

Posted by: PTC Nov 30 2017, 01:22 AM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Nov 29 2017, 08:20 PM) *
I know all of them! Just need to start from the beginning... I read slowly! sad.gif

Are you reading the English or Russian?

Posted by: RAPID Nov 30 2017, 01:25 AM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 30 2017, 04:22 AM) *
Are you reading the English or Russian?

Instead of buying I went to the library so... rolleyes.gif

Posted by: RAPID Nov 30 2017, 01:32 AM

Moreover, Charlie, I prefer and can stand only paper books... They have souls, you know! Hate those devices! Yeah, a little retro here but if it's for a book I think I'm right...

Posted by: PTC Nov 30 2017, 01:34 AM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Nov 29 2017, 08:32 PM) *
Moreover, Charlie, I prefer and can stand only paper books... They have souls, you know! Hate those devices! Yeah, a little retro here but if it's for a book I think I'm right...

I hear you. I also prefer books. I just get impatient waiting for them from my library.

It's easier just to find a pirate site and download them. wink.gif

Posted by: RAPID Nov 30 2017, 01:37 AM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 30 2017, 04:34 AM) *
It's easier just to find a pirate site and download them. wink.gif

That angers me even more! laugh.gif

Going to a library is just like dating a girl... angel.gif

Posted by: RAPID Nov 30 2017, 01:42 AM

How does the first book's name sound in English? 'Cause in Russian it sounds like a flying mouse... laugh.gif

Posted by: PTC Nov 30 2017, 09:47 AM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Nov 29 2017, 08:42 PM) *
How does the first book's name sound in English? 'Cause in Russian it sounds like a flying mouse... laugh.gif

Close enough. The English translation is 'The Bat'.

When reading, just be prepared for Batman to appear and save the day.


Posted by: PTC Nov 30 2017, 09:50 AM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Nov 29 2017, 08:37 PM) *
Going to a library is just like dating a girl... angel.gif

Yes, but how long would you wait before she gives you what you want, knowing that all this time she's giving what you want to other people?

Posted by: BRFC Nov 30 2017, 11:00 AM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 30 2017, 02:34 AM) *
I hear you. I also prefer books. I just get impatient waiting for them from my library.

It's easier just to find a pirate site and download them. wink.gif

If you love books and literature, please pay for them if you have the means. Authors, good and great ones, give up their trade because they need to eat. Talented authors, aspiring poets cannot get a deal because publishing houses can’t take a chance on talent anymore now readers are buying less books. It’s going to be all Dan Brown, Harry Potter and 50 shades if we don’t buy books fellas.

Posted by: RAPID Nov 30 2017, 10:11 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 30 2017, 12:50 PM) *
Yes, but how long would you wait before she gives you what you want, knowing that all this time she's giving what you want to other people?

King of comparisons! laugh.gif

Posted by: RAPID Dec 14 2017, 09:41 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Nov 30 2017, 12:47 PM) *
When reading, just be prepared for Batman to appear and save the day.

Save? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: PTC Dec 14 2017, 11:36 PM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Dec 14 2017, 04:41 PM) *
Save? rolleyes.gif

I guess Batman didn't join the party.

Posted by: RAPID Dec 22 2017, 12:04 AM

Done!

Posted by: RAPID Dec 22 2017, 09:59 PM

Charlie, how important to keep the books order in the series? Is it better to follow it? unsure.gif

Posted by: RAPID Dec 25 2017, 07:48 PM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Dec 23 2017, 12:59 AM) *
Charlie, how important to keep the books order in the series? Is it better to follow it? unsure.gif


Posted by: RAPID Jan 12 2018, 08:58 PM

Second book picked.


Thanks Charlie.

Posted by: PTC Jan 12 2018, 09:19 PM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Jan 12 2018, 03:58 PM) *
Second book picked.


Thanks Charlie.

Cockroaches. wink.gif


Posted by: RAPID Jan 12 2018, 09:41 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Jan 13 2018, 12:19 AM) *
Cockroaches. wink.gif

Nah, Kakerlakkene! tongue.gif

And thanks was for not giving a reply!!! angry.gif

Posted by: PTC Jan 12 2018, 10:34 PM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Jan 12 2018, 04:41 PM) *
Nah, Kakerlakkene! tongue.gif

And thanks was for not giving a reply!!! angry.gif

You're welcome.

Posted by: BRFC Jan 13 2018, 09:27 AM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Jan 12 2018, 09:58 PM) *
Second book picked.


Thanks Charlie.

laugh.gif

So. You liked it?

Posted by: RAPID Jan 13 2018, 05:21 PM

QUOTE (BRFC @ Jan 13 2018, 12:27 PM) *
laugh.gif

So. You liked it?

Just one book read. Can't say so quick...

First one was above average.

Posted by: RAPID Feb 2 2018, 09:44 PM

Just three words...


Ole Gunnar Solskjær

Posted by: BRFC Feb 2 2018, 09:51 PM

Just back from holiday of course:

Murakami's Murder of Commendatore: ok-ish. Not a great fan of his recent work.
Rushdie's Two years, eight months, twenty-eight nights: great storytelling. He's never been known for the subtlety of his metaphors, so that's a given, but I always enjoy his books.
David Vann's Goat Mountain. Very intense story. Really powerful and a little weird. I liked it very much.

That and a bunch of Dutch writers. Won't bother you with those.

Posted by: RAPID Feb 2 2018, 10:56 PM

So, weirdness means quality??? laugh.gif

Posted by: BRFC Feb 2 2018, 11:05 PM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Feb 2 2018, 11:56 PM) *
So, weirdness means quality??? laugh.gif

Not necessarily. But being weird in literature can mean being highly original. Granted, it can turn into an easy chasing of effects, but good weird just causes your perspective to shift, if only for the lenght of a book.

Posted by: RAPID Feb 2 2018, 11:57 PM

QUOTE (BRFC @ Feb 3 2018, 02:05 AM) *
Not necessarily. But being weird in literature can mean being highly original. Granted, it can turn into an easy chasing of effects, but good weird just causes your perspective to shift, if only for the lenght of a book.

Can you say the same for... life? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: scoobyliscious Feb 5 2018, 04:12 PM

QUOTE (BRFC @ Feb 2 2018, 06:05 PM) *
Not necessarily. But being weird in literature can mean being highly original. Granted, it can turn into an easy chasing of effects, but good weird just causes your perspective to shift, if only for the lenght of a book.

We have a theory in my family, after we all universally panned Gregory Maguire's Wicked: you know, the one that became a Broadway musical sensation? Terrible book. It was like a song with a great hook, ruined by lots of noise and a chorus that you couldn't sing along to.

Anyway, the book wasn't weird so much as confusing: he would build to a point, stop short of any explicit action to provide a climax to said point and then start the next chapter in the middle of the something completely different. You kept wondering if you missed something, or when he would return to that action / point; only he never did, leaving you confused through much of the book (which, be honest, is a fluff piece pseudo-attempt to tell a story from a different perspective without actually embracing nor helping you understand how a character seen as wicked sees herself as righteous; perspective and all that).

Our theory? If the underlying writing is good enough (pacing / action) and the book leaves readers confused, then many people will embrace it as "genius" rather than denigrate it as execrable because people assume being confused is their problem and not due to the author.

Weird, to me, is similar. "That book was weird enough that I didn't understand why it was weird, but I enjoyed reading it, so it must be genius!" It could just be well-written weirdness, which is neither good nor bad, but a matter of taste regarding that particular flavor of weird (weird, like ice cream, comes in lots of flavors and few of us really like all the flavors).

Posted by: PTC Feb 5 2018, 06:29 PM

QUOTE (scoobyliscious @ Feb 5 2018, 11:12 AM) *
We have a theory in my family, after we all universally panned Gregory Maguire's Wicked: you know, the one that became a Broadway musical sensation? Terrible book. It was like a song with a great hook, ruined by lots of noise and a chorus that you couldn't sing along to.

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I read this a few months ago and I didn't have a clue what the f was going on. A wasted opportunity to write what could have been a wonderfully interesting story.

Posted by: RAPID Feb 5 2018, 07:06 PM

So now we think that not understanding means genius? rolleyes.gif

I could actually agree but with some nuances, making it my own theory - the more meanings can be find in one book (novel, story, poem, song etc.), the better, and the more successful it can be... So, one understands it in one's own way instead of not understanding at all.

Though I reckon it suits the poetry better.

Posted by: PTC Feb 5 2018, 07:18 PM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Feb 5 2018, 02:06 PM) *
So now we think that not understanding means genius? rolleyes.gif

Nobody has said that.

The idea was postulated and theorised. Nothing more.

Posted by: RAPID Feb 5 2018, 07:38 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Feb 5 2018, 10:18 PM) *
Nobody has said that.

The idea was postulated and theorised. Nothing more.

Oh Charlie, of course that was figurative...

Posted by: PTC Feb 5 2018, 07:53 PM

QUOTE (RAPID @ Feb 5 2018, 02:38 PM) *
Oh Charlie, of course that was figurative...

Sure, but you posted that with the rolling eyes emoticon...suggesting that you disliked scooby's post.

You never seem to underatand the subtle nuances of the English language.

Posted by: RAPID Feb 5 2018, 10:11 PM

QUOTE (PTC @ Feb 5 2018, 10:53 PM) *
Sure, but you posted that with the rolling eyes emoticon...suggesting that you disliked scooby's post.

You never seem to underatand the subtle nuances of the English language.

Nice try! laugh.gif

You didn't get me so you say I hadn't got him! lol.gif

Your understanding scares me...

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